Well after a long day in the woods with my buddy Spikehorn11, he got one and I got nuttin. Theres always tomorrow morning. The calls I used worked well, I had several reds come up within spitting distance but they were too close and it was too dark. For pics of Spikehorn11's kill: http://forum.hunting.net/asppg/tm.asp?m=1196746&mpage=1&key=&#1196929