your bad hunter question really made me stop and think......gut check.I modern firearm hunt for a lot of years.uptill just a few years ago,i took intrest in bow hunting.A buddy of mine bow hunts and i told him id take him out.I was happy to see that all the spots i thought would be good places to go,where...7-10 a weekend.he got his deer.but got the shakes bad at a shot of 20 yrds for his cow.After getting to be that close to wild game....what a rush.i will never fire arm hunt again....the reason is that fire arm guys out here dont like to walk...and there like knats out here in washington.