al thanks for the info..the biggest problem i find in hunting these areas is the FINGERS of water. the crap is nasty. MUDDDDDD. i do not know if the deer even cross it. if they do, do they travel to the feeding fields everyday through that crap?? the mub in there is like quick sand. give me some feedback on how u hunt these areas. i have gone to a bigger head for a bigger entrance and exit hole. i am shooting 1 3/4 rockets and 1 1/4 muzzy's. i was in the marsh this evening...tracks everywhere