Whoa,whoa, whoa, friend.... Why the " [:'(]" ??? I love my 30-30 and it is still my favorite rifle. Quick,lightweight, easy to carry, drop it in the dirt - pick it up and keep on going, etc... Then again, it's good to maybe 150 yards. But still, it's my best choice for thehills and ridges with heavy timberand also in the deep briars/thickets.