I went into a shop (I wont say where or in what state), and the guy tried telling me my 04 pro tec was outdated and I NEEDED a Vtec. I kindly told him that when I wanted a new bow, I would come to him and tell him what I wanted, but I was paying him to recommend a new lens for my sight, not to sell me a bow.Some will think I was rude, but with some people you just have to tell them how it is, or they just wont get it.