Just gotta laugh at this thread. Got a friend like this as well. Soo concerned about needing a defensive gun in the woods against bears, yet wants to spend nothing to get the proper gun and settles on a lesser powerful model. If you'reTHAT worried about needing the grizzley gun because of attack, isn't this gun pretty much being bought to save your life? How much is your life worth to you? Skimp on the gun and you skimp on your chances of surviving an encounter.

Silly canuck.