Pecker- I apologize if you took my comment about fat assed hunters personal. My reference was to those who buy the 90% crap and expect the guides to make it happen for the bucks they spend. Your attitude and finances are just like mine but I bet many are the opposite. At 6'2" and 240 I ain't exactly svelt! Also be careful about the dying stuff. I have a freind in Oregon who had 2 out of 5 clients die of heart attacks on his first ever trip guiding with his brother. Elk hunting can be tough on older bodies and I hope I can just keep up for a few more years. Good hunting.