PAturkeyhunter, you have some solid points, as for the facts it was just a statement to open my thread, not a jab at you or what you wrote eariler. As for spring turkey I would be against BO for that. Your right stupid people who don't know what they are doing ruin it for everyone. You need to know what your doing. That's one of my biggest gripes about BO, it's not for people who know what they ar doing it's for the stupid people, but since we don't really know who they are we have to generalize it to make it safer for us. I'm not saying that you have to look like a pumpkin, just some orange to see you. Plus it helps people like me not go into one of my properties if I see orange, I will look for another spot to go, nothing like someone busting up you hunt or walking up on you. I cannot stand it, so by wearing orange I can make sure it will not happen to others. I agree that someone who shoots somebody shuld go to jail, accident or not, you need to know what's beyond your target, you are fully reponsiable for that bullet and what it hits. Ignorance is no excuse!!!!!