Let's stop this and get to the facts, Is this really about people who don't want to be controled anymore by laws or goverment and want to do as they wish or is it about people wanting to be safer in the woods come season time. All this macho crap is crazy, there are going to be more laws than we can shake a stick at in the near furture, and we can't do a thing about it , reguardless if we vote or not. This is not about them (being gov't) tring to control us more so people need to get off that kick. It's about coming home at night to our wifes and kids. They say that there is enough laws as it is, but the fact is that there wouldn't be that many if people were not stupid and careless and wouldn't break the laws. To me it is absolutly crazy not to gun hunt without some sort of orange on, those who want to have a CHOICE in the matter, it's your butt that your putting out there, why take unesssessary risks if you don't have too. Is it the rush of not being seen that makes you feel good while your out there?Folks it's deer hunting , not Iraq or the military where you have to hide from the enemy, or practice covert ops. I feel that this may get personel pretty soon with some of the people in here and there opinions, let's be professional and practice good judgement in what we write in here.