Well I never shoot five shot groups from my big game rifles. However the rifles that I now still have, have shot one inch three shot groups. I think my rifles will do one inch groups but I can not do it every time out. I have my good days and and not so good days at the range. If the rifle does not recoil much, then my wife can almost always shoot better groups than I can. She has steadier hands and nerves. Because I am not a great shooter of targets, I always have my wife or another shooter try a group or two before I give up on a rifle. In reality I won't keep a rifle that I can not shoot a two inch group every time out. I can't ask more of my rifle than I am capable of.