Well,I generally shoot 30 yds,at practice,and I usually get 2" patterns,sometimes 3",sometimes they touch,but not usually..I had my first robin hood this year,at 30yds(luck).At 20yds 1-2".At 35 usually 3-4",and at 40 I can hit the kill zone but it's just not consistent.I don't plan on shooting over 35yd anyways.At less than 20 I just point it pretty much 'cause that's just too easy.I am not a tournament shooter,but I can take a deer.Maybeone out of 30shots I'll pull one a little high,or off,but it's generally still in the kill zone.I probably should aim for a spot,but I usually just put it where I want it.