I ordered some wild persimmon trees last year from the conservation and planted them in a grove at the edge of a field and went down there yesterday and noticed i had about 15 trees already there 50ft from where I planted them. I never knew what kind of trees they were until I seen all of the unripe persimmons on them..I just bought the 42 acres last year, I guess last fall the deer and other critters must have ate all of them before I seen them. Anyways the 20 saplings I bought are doing fine but will take quite a few years before they produce fruit. The native ones look like they have been there a long time.