Honestly Retrieverman whether or not I am a Savage shooter should have nothing to do with the legitimaticy of the discussion. (Yes,I am..FYI).

Yes, I read your entire statement.

No, Iam notturning anything back on you. I simply wanted to know what was the basis of your opinion. I felt it was not grounded in fact, or possibly it was based on misinformation. (I would still like to hear it).

I just don't understand why some people attempt to turn the "smokeless" issue into another divisive point amongst hunters.

It is called "Muzzleloader" season in most states for a reason. If it were blackpowder season then obviously smokeless would not belong. Of course then none of the black powder substitutes would either.

As far as a primitive season goes it should be straight forward.... The state should pick a designateddate in time, any hunting implements which were created/invented beforesaid timeshould then be considered a legalfirearm for the taking of game.

There is absolutely no historical reason,(at least that I can see, please inform me if I am missing something), that BP alternatives should be allowed in a primitive season while smokelesswould not.

Primitive Season should either be historically correct, or not.

Muzzleloader owners should fight together for common goals. Not with each other over which propelent is being used.