7 yards away? I doubt I'd ever have a nice 8 pointer at 7 yards on public land.... [&o] The closest I have ever had a nice big 8 pointer was 20 yards, and he was spooked and real jittery by other hunters. (I still can't get over the fact that I sailed that arrow right over his back last season... What a golden opportunity... He was mine... all mine... I still have dreams about hunting this big 8 pointer! )

Another trick that I do in the woods, is make mental notes on the distance of rocks, logs, and most importantly, my sent wicks. Ipace out the distance from the sent wicks tomy treestand. With me being 6' tall and size 11 shoes, I can span one whole yard with onebig step - and I'mpretty close to the actual distance+/- a foot or so.

Butch A.