ORIGINAL: Scent-Lok G.Designer
1. No we are not going to publish the raw data as some information in that would break confidentiality agreements. Sorry.
A company that has proof it's product works.............and knows very well that many question that claim.........yet they won't publish the information?? Sounds weird. I would think that if there was proof that the suits worked it would be in full page ads in every hunting magazine out there.
2. Again the chart on our science page shows that. We did not alter the look of the data, just made it simpler to read and omitted any items related to confidentality.
It's just a line graph.............without all the information that went into coming up with that data it is meaningless. The first thing anyone in the scientific community would ask you is "How did you come up with these figures?"
You chose your lone opinions and a "scientific" expiemenrt that holds no scientific merit.
I highly doubt that if you thought my opinions were "lone".......that you would be here
You continue to poke at the study that showed the scent suits had no effect on animals ability to smell the wearer as not scientific.........at least it is all out in the open for everyone to see and then decide for themselves if the results are worthy of merit or not. All you have provided is a line graph and a list of chemistry lab equipment. Labeling his study as worthless and then providing nothing of your own to back those statements up is not fair IMO.
Why would I lie, to sell one suit to a guy that has his mind made up well before this conversation? I don't think so.
No one called you a liar.
My mind is made up based on all the facts currently available on this subject. I don't "believe".........and I don't put "faith" in what people tell me a product can and will do. I am a detail focused person and I just want black and white proof. Either it does it or it doesn't. Don't tell me a bow shoots 300 fps.........I will believe the chrono before I believe a magazine cover.
Again, no one is calling you a liar............I just don't like taking people's word for things........ESPECIALLY when they are trying to sell me something.
You are
saying a lot...........but you haven't
proven anything.
4. Headspace GMCS is the method of testing. I have listed the equipment for you to try it at home if you please.
You are selling the product..........I shouldn't have to test it for you. Not only that........these are the kinds of comments you asked others not to send your way or you would leave. I think you should give everyone else here the same respect you asked for and leave snide remarks like this out.
5. They published a book that outlined the system for measurment and how to isolate the chemicals coming off a human body. "Biochemical Applications of Mass Spectrometry" Good read! We took their information and subjucted our products for measurement.
Again we are left with taking your word for it as the only option.
If you want to obsess over your lint trap instead of practicing your shot go ahead.
Why is it when someone questions one of your claims it is "obsessing" but when you rattled off 20 questions about the dog study it was ok??
8. Your writer definately had intrest in the subject. He is a "canine expert" dabbeling in carbon technology. Why is that. Oh I see in paragraph three his writing sure sounds pretty bias. But again I am done arguing this point because there is no scientific merit to this article.
How can you call bias on someone when the only info you have quoted comes from the company website??........that is the definition of bias. There is no scientific merit to anything you have said in this entire thread either without factual data to back it up. All you have done is said a lot of stuff and asked people to take your word for it.
Lastly, from all your previous posts you have you mind made up. So I am going to exit my conversation with you. I have listed the lab equipment and methods for duplicating the tests; also I don't think anything, including showing you the tests, and jeopardizing our relationships in various industries, we run in labs around the world would change that. Thanks.
You said yourself that your product is not a matter of public safety and yet you treat these lab tests as if they are national secrets...........why on earth would a company agree to have testing done if they knew they could not publish the results??