Ok, i read this post earlier and went out and did a little experiment. I got on my roof and shot from there at a target 20 yards away. As long as i bent at the waist like stated and i hit dead on everytime and i sighted my bowin on the ground. This was the first time shooting from an elevated platform since i switched to fixed pins, i use to use a pendulum. so i have to agree with the guys that said bending at the waist is important causeit made a difference with me