You seem to be contradicting yourself there Red. You missed the point of what Justin said by proceeding to judge all those that disagree as having a jealousy problem, and that sounds a lot like self righteous name calling to me! I am not some pauper with no options, yet I choose not to endorse certain methods or to practice them, and it has absolutely nothing to do with oppurtunity or affordability. I applaud those with greater means than myself or greater oppurtunity. My issue has been and always will be fair chase. A consensus needs to be reached on this and it will be up to us as hunters to determine and to maintain a level of integrity and to keep other negative elements such as greed and pride out of the equation.The concern over the future of hunting lies with the perception of the nonhunter, who is in the vast majority over the hunter and anti alike.There are those of us who care about this perception and I attempt to speak out on this , keeping in mind that the fellow next to me may not a gree, but at some point, all of us have to be on the same page, without starting a feud. That is the kind of maturity that needs to be reached, and therecognition that disagreements exist will not go away on their own. They need to be handled without resorting to childish name calling and threats.