Chucker34 I went the first time in the mid 90's. I was suppose to have a guide but was left alonefor a day so I struck out on my own and gota bullthat eveningby thespot and stalk method. Since then it I have always gone on my own mostly on public ground. Any experienced elk hunter will tell you the odds are against you. Just being there is an experience in itself, the mountains, the bugles, the thin air (cough cough)...If a guy arrows one man it is icing on the cake...

Thanks for the kind thoughts, I appreciate it...Sounds like team four has already got one on the ground...you guys will have to keep things interesting while I am gone....