Muzzy, I think I know what you're getting at and If I am right, I agree that its a rare deer hunter who shoots enough to get really familiar with his equipment. I had a small firearms business for several years, and have been a shooter and hunter all my life, and the biggest disappointment is the general lack of competence among the masses. I think a big part of the problem is politics. We sent out a letter in our gun club two years ago announcing a centerfire "fun" match with "any legal hunting rifle" There were slightly over 270 letters mailed out, and notices put up in a dozen stores in three different towns in the area. On the day of the match, we had less than ten shooters show up. For whatever reason, people just seem to be ashamed of shooting where somebody will see them. We have this discussion alot, of how to get people involved, but havent come up with much. I am in three hunting clubs with a total membership of about 40, and I would bet my 401 that not two of them can hit a pie plate offhand at 100 yards three times in a row. I am guessing that the negative connotation given to guns in the press these days sinks into some peoples minds and also I think most folks dont want anyone to see how poorly they actually shoot. In reality, most of them arent nearly as bad as they think they are, they just dont want to find out or something. Then again, my opinion is biased, shooting is my main hobby, and I am wishing everyone was like me I suppose. I wish more folks would take an interest in some form of shooting. I shoot muzzleloaders from Jan to Aug in matches at two clubs monthly and attend three or four big matches a year, and practice once or twice a week during the season, me and some of my friends shoot silhouettes every saturday with centerfires from Jan til about May(when it gets real hot). In a typical year I will shoot between two and five thousand rounds of centerfire rifle and at least that many shots with the flintlock as well. I am going to take up BPCR next year too, there is a range two hours from here that is starting that game. Well, didnt mean to babble on, my coffee is kicking in! heh heh.....I keep my rws pellet rifle proped up by the back door too, there is almost never a day that I dont shoot something. Its bowseason here in Ga now, and I am busy trying to slam arrows through deer. So far its Larry 1, deer 0. Lets all go shoot something. I think your 100 shot warm up is good for a deer hunter, that many rounds will give you a feel for a rifle. There are alot of hunters out there that have never fired their gun,they took it to a shop, got it bore sighted, and head out to slay the monster buck at 300 yards. How goofy is that? I guarantee you it happens though.