Im training my shorthair for it. He's done a 14hr, 600 yrd trail with two 90 degree bends. Im working up to a 24hr and a 1000 yrd's. N.Y. allow's the use of a handgun to dispatch wounded deer. I went to a seminar on the shutzen style and I will use it with my next dog but sence my guy is doing well now I dont think I'll retrain him.