i have a summit viper x4 and actually hunted out of it this past sunday for 3-4 hours. it was great. but my legs have grown a bit since i bought the stand but that was my only complaint. the rapid climb stirrups worked great and depending on the hieght in the tree you are at and what kind of angle of shot you take it didn't seem that the bar would get in the way too much. then next time i go i think i'm going to try bowhunting from it.