Vapordog how true your wisdom. Alot of people can shoot really well. I have shot alot of clover leaf groups but more than not I will shoot two bullets in the same hole and opps one goes of about 3/4". Is it my bullets nope. My rifle nope. Its me and its just error. Take that same person who claims 1/2" groups and make them shoot five shot groups ohh how things change when you add another two shots. We are just people and I for one have never been invited to shoot on the USA Olympic team so I'm just normal .