cherokee outfitters, I have a question for you. First off I want to say I don't think one method or idea is better than another, so here goes. I have bow hunted since 89, during that time I have hunted and called in elk for myself and for friends and family. When calling in elk for myself I know that they will come in head on and that is a horrible shot. But I have also learned that if I and others have patience sooner or later the elk will turn, or they will move around to my right or left. Either way I will have a broadside shot or quartering away. When the shot I like presents itself I give a sharp grunt or quick high pitch cow call. This has always locked up elk dead in their tracks for me. It allows me draw my bow and shoot while they look at the moving bush with weird looks. But on the other hand when I have tried to move off to my left or right so I can have a broadside shot when they show up. They will spot that and either stop and stare forever or turn around and leave. When moving I don't call because when I am moving I don'twant them to pinpoint me and catch me off guard. Also I can't hear them either calling softly or walking towards me when I am moving. When I move I plan it out in advance andtry to pick good shooting lanes to move to and do it quickly maybe on the run. Once there I will stomp the ground and rub the tree while callingbut I will not move much more than a couple feet. So my question to you is how do you do it when you are alone? How do you call then move without getting caught with your pants down? I have moved with the decoy in my hand along with cow callsand that does work awesome! I have moved out into the open and then back into the timber only to have elk follow me. When calling forothers I set them up and tell them to not move but I zig zag and jay hook to bring a bull into them. Anyway I would love to hear your ideas and adviceon this subject.

glob3006, I have not been to Chris Rowe's seminar but I would like to. I have been to Jim Horn's seminar as well as several others from Primos. Chad Shearer(outfitter, guide and RMEF world calling Pro Champ) gives a excellent seminar, not sure who he works for except the RMEF?So doesthe gang from Hunters Specialties,Wayne Carlton, All Moris, JR Keller, andDan Witmus.I have notbeen to Paul's (ELK NUT) seminar but I have spent enough time on thephone with him to know he gives a good one.Same goes for Michael Batease,(Bugling Bull game calls Pro Staff),again I have not been to one of his seminars but from the time spent on the phone talking to himI know he and Rocky give a excellent program. I am lucky to be friends with many of these guys and have spent a lot of time talking onthe phone and even been invited over to their houses. I have learned they are no different than you or me and they all love to huntand call ELK! They are all very dedicated hunters and elk callers and they also learn from other hunters as well. I have said it before and I'll say it again education is the exchange of idea's and talking and learning to as many people as possible itone key to success!