RA. God man did you not see the smiley faces that indicate we are joking. I certainly don't need a lesson in ballistics. I have never had either of the two here but have had the 300 Win Mag and 300 Weatherby mag and bigger,and was a gun dealer for twenty some years.. We were joking about the magnumites. The wizbangs certainly have thier place, however their place is not at my place.