Any deer that ever got within 200 yards of my youngest son and his 30-30 was as good as on the table. However most people can,t shoot like he does, me included so keep the shots to 100-125 yards. What makes me mad is that he does not ever practice. He has been shooting like that since I got him his first BB gun. He can shoot a shotgun really well also and he has had no practice with those. I quess he just has the eye for shooting. Hard to explaine.