No grouse in MS either! We tried them out on a trip to Canada a few years ago--some went for moose, a few others for bear. Well, the weather wasn't cooperating (turned off real hot--fresh sign every morning, but moose activity during the day was very low), so I took a day off to grouse hunt. My buddy Tom (bear hunter--they only went to the stands in the evenings, so he had all day to play) had killed one, and lost a few, with judos. My first shot was with a hard rubber blunt--not as hard as the plastic ones, but hard enough that I'd gotten full penetration on some pretty big rabbits with them. Anyway....

I was close to the bird when I shot it. I was aiming for the chest, but wound up tagging it right behind the ear hole. Thank goodness I didn't hit where I was looking! My first thought was I probably took it's head off--I was pulling 66#, shooting arrows that were well over 600 grains, and at close range. I bailed off into the woods for my prize, and wound up having to catch it and finish it off!

Later, my buddy Chris had a super close shot, and he was using one of my arrows (I was the only one that thought to bring flu-flu's). He was pulling 65#, and was probably within 10 feet of his bird. He nailed it dead-center in the chest, sitting up in a small tree. The bird fell a couple of feet, righted itself, and flew up in the top of a big tree! That arrow hit so solid that you could hear the "WHACK" and it actually bounced off the bird. It sat in the next tree long enough for us to stalk it a bit, and for Tom to send another of my arrows to narrowly miss (lost my arrow too) and it flew off. I forget when it was, but I think Chris lost a bird or two with regular steel blunts also.

I decided this was just not going to work. I'd brought the Ace heads with me--don't even remember why I bought them in the first place--but figured we couldn't do any worse. Chris hadn't brought any flu-flu's, but he did bring hot-melt and a lighter, so I swapped out the points. We did not loose a single bird that was hit with the Ace heads. Chris wound up with three, I got one more, and poor 'ol Tom who had shot at umpteem of them never connected again--I don't think he even got another decent shot.

Anyhow, that convinced me. The heads made large wounds (the taxidermist fussed a lot about that, but he got the birds looking pretty good), and the birds dropped when they were hit.

I haven't had a chance to try them out on anything else yet, but I do plan to use them on rabbits when I get a chance (I used to rabbit hunt a lot with my bow, but haven't in a few years now). I'd given up on anything but broadheads for rabbits, after loosing too many with "small game" heads--blunts, homemade blunts, judos, etc. I think these will do the trick on rabbits, coons, possums, armidillos, maybe even coyotes (like I'll ever get a shot at a 'yote). Curious to know if they would be a good head for turkeys--I think they would, with a heavier poundage bow. They don't just shock, they cut also, and leave a big nasty wound and (I am positive) dead critters when they connect.

My experience with them is limited, but it was compared with several other heads, and the results were unanimous. I like 'em!

Besides that, they are almost as "unlooseable" as judos--they don't snake up under the grass.

Chad