I was hunting up stae once and me and my friend went into the woods ,we took about a 30 yard walk and there was a 8point buck between us I look up and there was another hunter just above my friend , I was about to raise my gun when this guy shoots right between us Boy were we lucky he didnt miss he was only another 30yards above us and dirrectrly in the line of fire that was the last time I hunted up there. So you guys with all those permits better be carefull