Thanks for the comments. Yes the big 8 in the cam. pic is a hog. I thik I saw him a couple days later but did not get an opertunity at him. The one I shot grossed 162 and change and netted 152 6/8. One brow tine is 11 1/2 and 3 of it's other tines are above 12 inches. Hope to get another one like that this year. So IL-CORNFED, is this buck big enough(Top photo in the pic)or do you think the camera angle is still making it big??????

Cormier