rut i use tinks69 had decent luck with it.. about a year ago i bought this stuff apple scentwith buck semen in it a had a decent 6 point about 60 yards out bowhunting went down wind of it and he stopped dead in his track and almost had his bottom lip on his nose then run right towards where the scent was and stop and smelled the branch with his bottom lip over his nose and wack 5 seconds later backstraps... anybody seen this stuff i want to get more but cant find it..