Rob is right, shame on you for waiting so long to do your homework. <img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle> It is funny, cause I go out bucking up some firewood with the chain saw and for some reason the deer aren't spooked by the noise, as I have seen many come by as I am doing this, but keep in mind I have never seen a trophy with the chain saw in hand, Bobby