Butch I hunt the same way you do although I usually carry a 270. Opening day is the only stand day..and its in a briar patch as well. Love that thick stuff. I think my average shot is bout 20-60 yards...some closer..some farther. Nothing like getting close enough to see the hair stand up on em as they figure out they are in trouble I have an old Model 94 in 32 Win Special..may have to give it a try for some of my brush busting.