I have been shooting an Extreme but just bought an Elite too. I haven't shot mine yet but am planning touse the same load as in my Extreme. I have been shooting 130 gr Pyrodex and a 250 gr Barnes Expander. I killed 4 deerwith my Extreme and that load in 2004, and only onetook a step.My 2004 Oklahomabuck in the picture gross scored 178" and weighed in at 265 lbs on the hoof, and he is the firstdeer that I haveEVER shot withmy Extreme that ran (only about 35 yards). The 250 grExpanders have performed flawlessly for me, but I bought some Hornady 250 and 300gr SST bullets and Barnes 300 gr Expandersthat I am going to try this year. Good luck with your load development and enjoy your gun.