I just got back from a bowhunting trip out in Oregon. I had a great time and saw 14 bulls and 20+ cows. Actually got a shot at one bull but missed. The cover was really thick and I had a limb in the way. Tried a shot over the limb. Made it over the limb and the bull's back! Ouch!! The elk were not rutting at all. Bulls were not bugling and would not come to calls. We had 2 small bulls, a spike and a raghorn stand 94 yards up from us while we cow called. They just looked down our way for about 10 minutes then walked off. They didn't seem to be herded up. We bumped into several groups that had small bulls bedded right in with the cows. My question is, how the heck do you bow hunt elk when they, a)aren't bugling, b)won't come to calls and c)are somewhat scattered out?