I got mine from a private owner in Wisconsin which I located thru a member of the Boykin family. It was very difficult to find a dog. I got very lucky.My dogs father was the Boykin roustabout champion and the mother came from the Boykin family and has been inseveral dog magazines. He points pheasants but retrieves wounded runners once the gun sounds. Only one in ten Boykins will point I am told. They look cute but belive me they have a desire to hunt and retrieve that is unbeliveable. You could not get a better family pet. Mine is a male he just follows me everywhere I go. I am not sure if he could retrieve a duck in choppy water etc.