James B I will assume your numbers came from a reloading manual not a factory load. I rechecked the factory offerings and found the 7MM Remington behind by over 100 + FPS at 140, 150, and 160 grains. Before you go back to saying the WSM numbers are being misrepresented, just remember they both have case capacities of 83 grains (so I am not sure what you meant by "bigger 7s") and the WSM has a higher pressure limit. So it makes sense that the WSM will be ahead. This is giving you the benifit of the doubt, that the shorter cases are not more efficient than the longer cases as the manufacturers claim.