Exactly Randy. I stated they put their name on it. I never implied they had anything to do with the mfg. They still own awsome patends that cover quite a few arms that are made with their name. The reloading components they still make and sell under their own name are exellent products as well not the best but not the most expensive either. The CT bullets are supoose to be about the best in the world and the ones I have tried are great.

I own one modern Winchester a 70 made in the ealy 70's in .308. The only other Winchester I own is a prewar .32WINSPL carbine which was "made especially for smokeless powder" I still shoot that gun all the time.

Do you know of a reason not to own or shoot this rifle this gentleman is talking about?