You guys have a great point. I am am regretfully a victim of nievity. I have come to a few conclusions, 1st, I need to start reloading thebullets I plan to hunt with. 2nd, I am gonna try my pals powder. He uses some surplus stuff that is real cheap. If I can get the velocity and accureacy out of it, I will just use some of his. Thanks a bunch, EJ