I have seen those Black Diamond kits with cleaners and loaders and everything else you need but powder primers and the kitchen sink selling for around $250. When you add in the cost of the other stuff it starts making that rifle a real deal.

On the other hand if like the feel of the rifle and you know it dosn't have the trigger problem I would say go for it. It is not going to blow up on you unless you screw up. The way some people talk about imported muzzleloaders you would think more people are being killed by them here than our brothers in Iraq. I wish they would get there facts a bit more inline with the truth.


When was the last time you heard of anyone being hurt or killed using any rifle the way it was designed to be loaded and shot?

When was the last time you heard of anyone being hurt using a muzzleloader the way it was designed to be loaded and shot?

The only time I know of it happening was when some fool loaded his T/C Hawkin up with smokeless rifle powder and put sme nice hot steel in his arms.(ouch) That rifle was dispayed in a local gun shop for quite a few years after that little fiasco.