I've been loading these bullets and singing their praises for years. IMHO, they are one of the best .30 cal bullets onthe market today. I've never seen they NOT shoot thru a deer at any reasonable range. A good friend of my took his elk this year with this bullet loaded in a 300 Wby with one shot at 100+ yards. It's all I'll carry for deer in either my .308 or my 30.06. Even my .243 loves the 85 grainers for deer.