It depends on where you are shooting in my opinion, every shoot around here is different, and some are easier then others and some are just plain tough. I usually average in the 280s but on some of the easier ones nearby, I might jump to 290 or so, or an a really tough shoot, it may fall into the 270s, depends on the day too, a bad day on a tough course is a real wake up call, but a good day on an easy course, makes you feel like a pro..lol. Our shoots dont count 12s as points, but count them as an X.