ORIGINAL: Tim4Trout
In response to various previous posts ...
Since when does putting a fence around property change attempting to harvest a deer from hunting to not hunting ?
When they are "put" in there and they can't get out.
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An animal's ability to elude the hunter is not necessarily compromised by having that animal confined within an enclosure.
No, Jimmy Huston found that out at Bellar's Place. He needed all the hired hands they could round up to chase that deer until it was foaming at the mouth and ready to collapse inside a ten acre pen.
All facilities are not alike, thus one should not judge such facilities and how they operate as a whole based upon those such as that which happened recently involving a single facility in Indiana.
True again. Bellar's Place was the "premier" example of what a Pic N Shoot run right can be, as attested to by all the deerfarmer's holding it up at the prime example of the best the industry had to offer, right up to the day he plead guilty.
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To those opposed to high fence operations.
While I would certainly take a stand against someone putting a tame deer from a petting zoo in a 30 by 50 ft pen, have somebody shoot it, and call it hunting, many facilities involve more than what be necessary to meet the requirements for fair chase, which is often the key argument against such facilities.
I bet this will be a "wild" one. Woe as me to the "hunter" who draws a hunt on this savy buck.
Right at this link you can read the deerfarmer's hand picked rep. Brad Thurston's comment's that these facilities exist here in Indiana on as little as 2 acres.
http://www.in.gov/dnr/cervidcouncil/marchmeeting.pdf
Item 10, top of page 6
Any implimentation which can increase a persons chances of success poses the risk of being judged as taking away from what might be considered as " fair chase ".
If you choose not to participate in a high fence hunt ... FINE
But please don't take away from those that do, or put them down.
Anti hunting factions are out there to END ALL HUNTING. If you think they will stop their attacks after hunting methods which you feel do not construe fair chase are eliminated, THINK AGAIN !!!
All other arguements aside, CWD puts all deer hunting at risk.
Nobody can tell a deer is free from it.
Nobody knows how it is spead.
Deer travel farther and faster in trucks than they do walking.
It's ridiculous to increase the risk to everybody else in the country and the whole rest of the deer herd so a few wanna bees and slime balls can shoot a pet in a cage.