I saw a buck this year in Illinois that was killed by a friend of mine last week. It scored 190 3/8"(typical). I have seen two typicals in Illinois that were bigger, maybe 200-205". In my home state of PA, I have seen a couple of bucks that might go 175". About 25 years ago, we killed a big typical in westmoreland Co. on a drive that went 186" gross typical.