danny-we used shiners-2 1/2 to 3 inch. had to buy them by the pound at that lake. no limit on crappie, or bream. we filled our ice chest several times with slab-size fish. we also resorted to jigs if we ran out of shiners, and did o.k. with them, but the live bait worked best for us. timber finally died and fell, and now, you have to have a large boat and no wind to fish the lake. when it was young, we fished it in a 14 ft. john-boat. last trip down with my Dad before he died, we watched as 6 ft. waves rolled in at the lanch ramp. turned around and drove back home.