Holepuncher, your last post is one of the things that annoy me so about you "anti highfencers". You all never have any valid points to back up your beliefs. It seems like the anti high fencers say the same things over and over and make little one line comments which I guess are suppose to get under the other persons skin. Your really not much different then anti hunters like PETA and the HSUS in that you make up your mind on things based solely on your emotions and you try to push your beliefs and your way onto others. Some of you guys really need to broaden your horizens and get off the back 40 once in a while. Theres a big world out there and different hunting methods exist everywhere you go. You might not enjoy all of them, personally I dont care. I dont like or enjoy half the hunting methods that guys on forums like this one use, but I dont go around bad mouthing them or try to run them into the ground, unless they do it to me first then I'm simply defending myself. Now why dont some of you armchair commanders get off the computer and go out and experience anew hunting adventure.