I get weekly pics from my deer cam that show a group of 6 bucks running together, all are at 6 points right now, but one looks like he's going to be really impressive, I have the video feature on my Cuddeback and it shows that he's very aggresive toward the other five bucks. All of thier racks are out beyond thier ears. I also have pics of 2 spikes that are running together, thier racks are only about 2 inches high. Not many does right now, I assume they are still keeping thier fawns hidden.