Big Guss, If you could lend me some of the memory tapes from your extensive library it would save me alot of time and money. I know being the man you are you will step up to the plate and do just that. Thank you in advance. Butch, just jacking around with you about your yard. We all have a little corner like that. As for your form, when your hitting bulls like that you can hold it any way you want. Try the both eyes open though, after you get used to it I think you will like it. Good day mate!