you might do a search in the archives for a post by jollyarcher. he shoots w/o a peep and developed a simple system to do so. i plan to adopt his system next season. i wanted to get rid of my peep for this season, so i bought a hindsight for a quick fix. ultimately, i don't want to have any rear alignment device of any kind (except my eye and various anchor points. ) instead of just jumping in from shooting a peep to shooting without any rear alignment device, i decided to take baby steps. i'm on a three-season plan. [8D]