Another vote for the Rem 870 express! I own 2...one for bird hunting only(phesant/grouse) and one for deer hunting only. My deer hunting rig has a 2x7 with a rifled slug barrel(cantelever scope mount) on it. For the $$, I think it's one of the best out there and pretty much fool proof to take apart and clean and put back together without any type of manual. For the $$, I can afford to beat the heck out of this gun and really not care about all the scratches and goudges(sp?) that I put in it. Now if we were talking only upland game, that would be a different story.