I really got off of the subject there but BT the bottom line is you are not a resident of IL and nor am I. Here in MO outfitting is beginning to pick up but not like in IL. Its out of control there and getting worse all the time. You are not going to win this arguement w/ the folks in IL because it is the land they have hunted since children in some instances and not ours. So it is VERY understandable that they be upset. Don't you think? I would not rub salt in the wound by asking HEY whats the big deal why don't you like outfitters ;because I think we all know the answers already. I know you are trying to protect your investment but at the expense of who or what? Do the needs of the few (outfitters) out weigh the interest and needs of the many (IL sportsmen) or is it that the needs of the ones with the deep pockets matter the most today? I know outfitting is here to stay but the way they are taking over all the good hunting ground and pushing more and more people onto state lands and combine that with development you have to wonder if your children or your grandkids will ever be able to enjoy the outdoors the way it was meant to be.