I hunt deer in the desert and have fallen down a hill into a nest of cholla cactus before. Need to find heavy trails or water. I hunt elk in tall timber, easy walking but straight up and down. Some elk taken on water holes but I mostly stalk and set up in oak thickets. Elk altitide is 7500 to 8700 feet. Love to deer hunt but something about hearing that "thunk" as the arrow hits the ribs of a big elk gets me all excited.